listen, i know jewish and nebraska were hagel was a senator. they never got any sense in terms of the strategic women. but the last three years he's been president -- the chair of the president's intelligence advisory board and i've talked with people who sadek means that 10. they get access to all the intelligence information the cia director other people get. these are people who have no dog in this fight whatsoever. they say he discussed the issues in a serious way, and there didn't seem to be innate ideological tilt. including questions about iran's nuclear program. he handled it very professionally. i must say he supposed they rehearsed and the quality of these answers when he came under questioning from mccain was it's kind of pathetic, but i don't know. i'm pretty sure the votes are all lined up for him to win, but you never know about these things. >> tummy which you think the role the military in this low intensity conflict should be. another verse, there's no doubt the army and the very fact they've been reducing the enemy. but then i